AP Taylor Swift
Welcome to AP Taylor Swift Podcast, the show for Swifties who love to overanalyze lyrics! Join hosts Maansi Dommeti, Jenn Holcomb, and Jodi Innerfield as they delve into Taylor Swift’s music to uncover the literary devices, themes, and inspirations that make her songs resonate with millions of fans. From Shakespeare to feminist theory, we explore the academic side of Taylor’s songwriting, no English degree required, just curiosity. New episodes weekly. Subscribe for updates: aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe
Welcome to AP Taylor Swift Podcast, the show for Swifties who love to overanalyze lyrics! Join hosts Maansi Dommeti, Jenn Holcomb, and Jodi Innerfield as they delve into Taylor Swift’s music to uncover the literary devices, themes, and inspirations that make her songs resonate with millions of fans. From Shakespeare to feminist theory, we explore the academic side of Taylor’s songwriting, no English degree required, just curiosity. New episodes weekly. Subscribe for updates: aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe
Episodes

Monday Nov 03, 2025
Monday Nov 03, 2025
“Pledge allegiance to your hands, your team, your vibes.” In this preview of our After School episode, we're reflecting on our first month with Taylor's latest album. We dive into why certain Taylor albums create earworms while others don't, how her genre-hopping creates completely different fan bases, and whether we just accidentally invented a personality test based on your top two Taylor albums (spoiler: it's better than Myers-Briggs). Plus, we debate whether "an album full of bops" can stand the test of time, or if that's exactly what we needed right now.
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This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z.

Wednesday Oct 29, 2025
Wednesday Oct 29, 2025
"I'll dance with these beautiful ghosts and I'll choose to be wild and free." What happens when we view Taylor Swift's music through the lens of our feline friends? In this week's Show & Tell episode, we explore three songs that connect to the world of cats in different ways. From the mysterious cat distribution system to reclaiming the "cat lady" trope, we discuss how cats represent independence, mystery, and the feminine in both literature and Taylor's music. Plus, we dive into why men who hate cats might be revealing more about themselves than they think.
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Mentioned in this episode:
Cat Distribution System - internet phenomenon
Cats Musical - Andrew Lloyd Webber
TS Elliot Old Possum's Book Of Practical Cats
Marx for Cats
Beautiful Ghost - Taylor Swift & Andrew Lloyd Webber, 2019
Cats (2019 film)
The Cheshire Cat - Lewis Carroll's Alice in Wonderland
Professor McGonagall - J.K. Rowling's Harry Potter
The Black Cat - Edgar Allan Poe
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Episode Highlights:
[00:37] All about cats!
[09:22] "State of Grace" and the cat distribution system
[17:18] "Gorgeous" and reclaiming the cat lady trope
[27:08] "Beautiful Ghost" and choosing wild freedom
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This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z.

Wednesday Oct 29, 2025
Wednesday Oct 29, 2025
"How high was Andrew Lloyd Webber when he wrote this and on what exactly?"
This month on After School, we're discussing Cats, the 2019 movie musical featuring Taylor Swift as Bombalurina. For this bonus episode for paid subscribers, we watched and dissected Tom Hooper's infamous film adaptation. From the uncanny CGI to Taylor's scene-stealing performance to the existential question of cat proportions, we explore what went wrong (and occasionally right) in translating Andrew Lloyd Webber's 1981 stage musical to the big screen.
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Mentioned in this episode:
T.S. Eliot's Old Possum's Book of Practical Cats (1939)
Cats (2019 film) directed by Tom Hooper
Taylor Swift's "Beautiful Ghosts" (written for the film)
E3: Alice in Wonderland
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This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z.

Wednesday Oct 22, 2025
E105: I guess I'll never, ever know… “Now That We Don’t Talk” Deep Dive
Wednesday Oct 22, 2025
Wednesday Oct 22, 2025
“You part the crowd like the Red Sea, don't even get me started.” This week, we're deep diving "Now That We Don't Talk" from 1989 (Taylor's Version). This vault track is lyrically dense, structurally complex, and emotionally devastating in its exploration of uncertainty, insecurity, and the relationships that leave us wanting more. We analyze biblical references, rhetorical questions, enjambment, and why this song was ultimately too insecure to make the original 1989 album. Join us as we unpack how Taylor uses poetic devices to create a haiku-like meditation on the aftermath of an intimate relationship—whether romantic, platonic, or something in between.
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Mentioned in this episode:
Wicked, the book, movie, and musical
E102: Wicked
E3: Alice in Wonderland
E98: Unreliable Narrators
E55: Rhetorical Questions
***
Episode Highlights:
[01:53] “Now That We Don’t Talk”
[05:06] “You went to a party/I heard from everybody”
[10:25] “And from the outside/ It looks like you're tryin' lives on”
[15:38] “I call my mom, she said that it was for the best”
[25:47] “Truth is I can't pretend it's platonic, it's just ended”
[37:00] “I don't have to pretend I like acid rock”
[42:48] “And the only way back to my dignity”
[49:02] The purpose of “Now That We Don’t Talk”
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This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z.

Wednesday Oct 15, 2025
Wednesday Oct 15, 2025
This week on AP Taylor Swift, we're doing something special, a Wicked-themed show and tell! With Wicked: For Good coming out soon, we're embracing our inner theater kids and connecting Taylor Swift's music to this beloved story. From the 1995 Gregory Maguire book to the 2003 Broadway musical to the upcoming film adaptation, we explore how “A Place in This World,” “Treacherous,” and “Now That We Don’t Talk” all perfectly capture the complex relationships and emotional journeys in the Land of Oz.
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Mentioned in this episode:
Wicked: The Life and Times of the Wicked Witch of the West (1995 book by Gregory Maguire)
Wicked movie adaptation (2024-2025 film)
The Wizard of Oz by L. Frank Baum (the original book that inspired Wicked)
Bridgerton
Alice in Wonderland
***
Episode Highlights:
00:00:35
Intro to the topic of Wicked
00:07:05
“A Place In This World”
00:15:20
“Treacherous”
00:28:34
“Now That We Don’t Talk”
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Wednesday Oct 08, 2025
E103: Invisible String Deep Dive - How Taylor Swift Turned Fate into Folklore
Wednesday Oct 08, 2025
Wednesday Oct 08, 2025
"Isn't it just so pretty to think all along there was some invisible string tying you to me?" This week, we're deep diving "invisible string" (folklore 2020). We go line by line through this deceptively whimsical love song, exploring everything from Greek mythology to Jane Eyre references, the evolution of time from "curious" to "mystical" to "wondrous," and why Taylor chooses to believe in fate. Join us as we unpack the colors, the contrasts, and the surprising darkness hidden beneath this seemingly romantic fairy tale about finding your person against all odds.
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Mentioned in this episode:
Jane Eyre, Charlotte Brontë
Greek Mythology - The Fates
Ancient Chinese proverb - Red thread of fate
Hercules (1997 Disney film)
***
Episode Highlights:
[01:27] The title: Invisible strings, fates, and marionettes
[3:33] Green and teal: Same but different colors
[11:13] “Bad was the blood of the song in the cab”
[18:16] "Time, mystical time"
[24:30] “Something wrapped all of my past mistakes in barbed wire”
[36:22] "Time, wondrous time" - Blues to purple pink skies
[39:13] The purpose of the song
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This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z.

Friday Oct 03, 2025
"The Life of a Showgirl" Album Release Reactions
Friday Oct 03, 2025
Friday Oct 03, 2025
"But you don't know the life of a showgirl, babe." Join us for our immediate reactions to Taylor Swift's The Life of a Showgirl album! We break down our first impressions track by track, exploring the sophisticated lyricism hidden beneath high-energy pop production, the album's theatrical motifs, and how Taylor uses the showgirl concept as both performance and vulnerability. From the literary references in "Fate of Ophelia" to the musical callbacks throughout, we discuss how this album ties together themes from across Taylor's discography while introducing bold new perspectives on fame, relationships, and growing up in the spotlight.
Mentioned in this episode:
Hamlet
Macbeth
Dante’s Inferno
Rapunzel fairy tale
Elizabeth Taylor
Jackson 5
George Michael
The Godfather
Scandal (TV show)
Episode Highlights:
[00:30] Our initial reactions to “The Life of a Showgirl”
[07:39] Fate of Ophelia - Shakespeare references and literary vibes
[12:28] Elizabeth Taylor - Loneliness of fame and purple eyes
[14:34] Opalite - ABBA vibes and haunted houses
[17:42] Father Figure - Industry power dynamics and masculinity
[21:42] Eldest Daughter - Track 5 emotions and millennial core
[27:06] Ruin the Friendship - High school storytelling and Abigail callback
[30:55] Actually Romantic - Diss track energy but supportive message
[34:39] Wi$h Li$t - Evolving desires and life phases
[40:02] Wood - Adult themes with childhood superstitions
[45:03] Canceled! - Something wicked this way comes
[47:54] Honey - Terms of endearment and passive aggression
[52:00] The Life of a Showgirl - Behind the scenes vs performance
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Wednesday Oct 01, 2025
E102: Taylor Swift Parallels: Connecting the Dots Between Unexpected Song Pairings
Wednesday Oct 01, 2025
Wednesday Oct 01, 2025
"What if I told you none of it was accidental?" This week, you’re getting six show-and-tell songs instead of three! In this episode, we explore the concept of parallel songs in Taylor Swift's discography, focusing on thematic and lyrical connections between pairs of songs. We discuss the similarities between the carefree hangout vibes of “22” and the more mature perspective of letting loose in “Bejeweled”; the contrasting views of fate in “Invisible String” and agency in “Mastermind”. And, we take a technical lens to the songs “Labyrinth” and “You're Losing Me”, highlighting how they embody experiences of love and loss.
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Mentioned in this episode:
Eras Tour Surprise Song Mashup TikToks
Love Story Deep Dive
***
Episode Highlights:
[00:22] Introduction to Parallel Songs
[04:00] Exploring “22” (Red) and “Bejeweled” (Midnights)
[12:09] Contrasting “Invisible String”(folklore) and “Mastermind” (Midnights)
[19:57] Analyzing “Labyrinth” (Midnights) and “You're Losing Me” (Midnights (from the vault))
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Wednesday Sep 24, 2025
Wednesday Sep 24, 2025
"Nice to meet you, where you been? I could show you incredible things..." In this deep dive episode, we dissect one of Taylor Swift's most iconic satirical masterpieces. From the enchanted references that bookend her career to the Shakespeare allusions hidden in plain sight, we explore how "Blank Space" operates as both brilliant satire and surprisingly authentic commentary on complex womanhood. Join us as we unpack the magic, madness, heaven, and sin of a song that dared to ask: what if we owned the narrative instead of fighting it?
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Mentioned in this episode:
A Midsummer Night's Dream, William Shakespeare
Pretty Little Liars (TV series)
The Office (TV series)
Wife of Bath from The Canterbury Tales, Geoffrey Chaucer
Episode Highlights:
[02:29] Diving into “Blank Space”
[08:15] “New money, suit and tie” - character analysis
[15:27] Analyzing the chorus
[22:31] Shakespearean references
[28:50] “Cherry lips, crystal skies” vs. “stolen kisses, pretty lies”
[35:25] "I get drunk on jealousy"
[38:44] Bridge analysis: "Boys only want love if it's torture"
[44:59] Getting into the purpose of “Blank Space”
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Wednesday Sep 17, 2025
E100: Taylor Swift Songs That Transcend Time - Blank Space, New Romantics, The Man
Wednesday Sep 17, 2025
Wednesday Sep 17, 2025
From medieval England to modern pop music, some things never change - women fighting for agency, authority, and the right to write their own stories. In this milestone 100th episode, we go full literary nerd and explore the surprising connections between Geoffrey Chaucer's iconic Wife of Bath from The Canterbury Tales and Taylor Swift's empowering anthems. By looking at Blank Space, New Romantics, and The Man, we examine how both the 14th-century literary character and the 21st-century pop star challenge societal expectations, manipulate narratives to their advantage, and advocate for women's autonomy in love and life.
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Mentioned in this episode:
The Canterbury Tales, Geoffrey Chaucer
The Great Gatsby, F. Scott Fitzgerald
The Catcher in the Rye, J.D. Salinger
Episode Highlights:
[1:10] Introduction to paid subscriber content announcement
[2:55] Connecting Taylor Swift to The Canterbury Tales
[6:42] "Blank Space"
[15:50] "New Romantics"
[25:00] "The Man"
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