AP Taylor Swift
Welcome to AP Taylor Swift Podcast, the show for Swifties who love to overanalyze lyrics! Join hosts Maansi Dommeti, Jenn Holcomb, and Jodi Innerfield as they delve into Taylor Swift’s music to uncover the literary devices, themes, and inspirations that make her songs resonate with millions of fans. From Shakespeare to feminist theory, we explore the academic side of Taylor’s songwriting, no English degree required, just curiosity. New episodes weekly. Subscribe for updates: aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe
Welcome to AP Taylor Swift Podcast, the show for Swifties who love to overanalyze lyrics! Join hosts Maansi Dommeti, Jenn Holcomb, and Jodi Innerfield as they delve into Taylor Swift’s music to uncover the literary devices, themes, and inspirations that make her songs resonate with millions of fans. From Shakespeare to feminist theory, we explore the academic side of Taylor’s songwriting, no English degree required, just curiosity. New episodes weekly. Subscribe for updates: aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe
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4 days ago
4 days ago
“Seems the only one who doesn’t see your beauty is the face in the mirror looking back at you.”This week, we’re doing a Show and Tell on one of literature’s most enduring symbols: the mirror. From Narcissus to Dorian Gray, Snow White’s magic mirror to Alice Through the Looking Glass, mirrors have long served as devices of identity, vanity, the supernatural, and the soul, and Taylor Swift is no stranger to the motif. We trace mirrors across three songs: Tied Together with a Smile (Taylor Swift, 2006), Begin Again (Red, 2012), and Anti-Hero (Midnights, 2022). Along the way, we explore distorted self-perception and the inner child, the mirror as a post-breakup identity reset, why Taylor would rather stare directly at the sun than face her own reflection, and what social media has to do with all of it. Plus: Dorian Gray, Narcissus, vampires without souls, the Bloody Mary game, and an accidental Justin Timberlake shout-out.
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Mentioned in this episode:
The Picture of Dorian Gray, Oscar Wilde
Hamlet, William Shakespeare
Alice Through the Looking Glass, Lewis Carroll
Reflection — Mahesh Dattani (Indian play)
Reflection — Mulan (1998 film)
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937 film)
Greek Mythology: Narcissus
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone (Mirror of Erised), J.K. Rowling
Tied Together with a Smile — Taylor Swift (2006)
Begin Again — Taylor Swift, Red (2012)
Anti-Hero — Taylor Swift, Midnights (2022)
Episode Highlights:
[01:13] Mirrors in literature and the arts: identity, vanity, and the soul
[09:00] Song 1: Tied Together with a Smile — the fractured self and distorted physical perception
[23:52] Song 2: Begin Again — “Took a deep breath in the mirror”
[34:11] Song 3: Anti-Hero — “I’ll stare directly at the sun, but never in the mirror”
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Wednesday May 20, 2026
Taylor Swift's "Our Song" | Meaning & Lyrical Analysis | "Taylor Swift" Debut (2006)
Wednesday May 20, 2026
Wednesday May 20, 2026
“I was ridin’ shotgun with my hair undone,” and the rest is history. This week, we do a full line-by-line deep dive into a classic, “Our Song” (Taylor Swift, 2006). Join us as we discuss the self-referential recursion (she wrote a song about their song, and that song is their song) and the sounds and silences Taylor chose to define a teenage romance. This is Taylor before anyone believed in her, holding the pen, writing herself into her debut album.
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Mentioned in this episode:
“Replay,” Zendaya
“Replay,” Iyaz
“Your Song,” Elton John
Inception, 2010
Mean Girls, 2004
“God is a DJ,” Pink
American Beauty, 1999
Inferno, Dante Alighieri
The Canterbury Tales, Geoffrey Chaucer
Harry Potter, JK Rowling
***
Episode Highlights
[03:40] A song about a song
[11:02] "Baby" - a term of endearment
[22:55] The "Replay" Era
[30:29] A very short, very dramatic bridge
[37:01] She is the writer
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Monday May 18, 2026
Monday May 18, 2026
“It's the first kiss, it's flawless, really something, it's fearless.” Over on our paid feed on Substack, we’'re in our Fearless era (literally), diving deep into Taylor's second album track by track for our After School paid subscribers. We go through all 13 original tracks, from the sparkly country-pop opening of "Fearless" to the quietly defiant closer "Change,” examining what each song adds to the album, what literary and emotional threads connect them, and how this era set the template Taylor would spend the next eras of her career perfecting. Along the way, we track the evolution of Taylor's fearlessness from a teenager writing on tour buses to the artist who re-recorded her masters and looked the whole industry dead in the eye.
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This episode is exclusively for our paid subscribers. Thank you for supporting AP Taylor Swift!
Mentioned in this episode:
Album context, album art, and the “Fearless” era’s place in Taylor’s discography
Track 1: “Fearless”, previously covered in Episode 88: Weather Songs
Track 2: “Fifteen”, previously covered in Episode 124: Time & Episode 125: Deep Dive
Track 3: “Love Story”, previously covered in Episode 31: Shakespeare & Episode 32 Deep Dive
Track 4: “Hey Stephen”, previously covered in Episode 1 “Songs that Made us Swifties”
Track 5: “White Horse”, previously covered in Episode 33: Animal Studies and Episode 110: High School Musical
Track 6: “You Belong With Me”, previously covered in Episode 98: Unreliable Narrators
Track 7: “Breathe” ft. Colbie Caillat
Track 8: “Tell Me Why”
Track 9: “You’re Not Sorry”
Track 10: “The Way I Loved You”, previously covered in Episode 52 Psychoanalytic Theory & Episode 53 Deep Dive
Track 11: “Forever & Always”
Track 12: “The Best Day”, previously covered in Episode 81: Female Artists
Track 13: “Change”, previously covered in Episode 110: High School Musical
The purpose of the album as a whole: what Fearless was trying to do when it came out in 2008, and what it means now looking back across the full discography
Episode Highlights:
[00:00] Welcome to After School — Fearless era begins
[01:11] Fearless as a sophomore album: branding, stakes, and proving it wasn't a fluke
[06:46] Why "Fearless" and not "Love Story": the title as identity
[09:00] The album's critical reception and Billboard dominance
[12:14] The Kanye VMAs moment and what it meant for the era
[29:43] Track 1 — "Fearless": dancing in the rain, connective tissue to debut
[01:35:44] Track 13 — "Change": ending on a note of inevitability
[01:43:31] What the album is actually about: manifesting fearlessness
[01:46:01] The lesson from Fearless: just do the thing, even badly
[01:49:27] Taylor's Version and why she started with Fearless
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Wednesday May 13, 2026
Alliteration in Taylor Swift's Music | "Our Song," "Call It What You Want" & More
Wednesday May 13, 2026
Wednesday May 13, 2026
“I’ll be your father figure.” This week, we’re diving deep into one of Taylor Swift’s most underrated literary tools: alliteration. From the phonetic cadence of a teenage Taylor on Debut to the silky-smooth flow of reputation’s Call It What You Want, to the hard-hitting, power-packed punch of Father Figure from The Life of a Showgirl, we trace how Taylor uses the repetition of consonant sounds to create rhythm, evoke emotion, and tell a story. Whether she’s channeling JFK-level emphasis or crafting an earworm you can hit the notes on without music, alliteration is a tool Taylor reaches for selectively and with purpose. Join Maansi, Jennifer, and Jodi as they break down soft sounds, staccato slams, and everything in between.
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Mentioned in this episode:
“Our Song” – Taylor Swift (Debut, 2006)
“Call It What You Want” – Taylor Swift (Reputation, 2017)
“Father Figure” – Taylor Swift ft. George Michael interpolation (The Life of a Showgirl, 2025)
“Pied Beauty” – Gerard Manley Hopkins
“The Raven” – Edgar Allan Poe
JFK Inaugural Address – John F. Kennedy (1961)
Grammarly: What Is Alliteration?
Episode Highlights:
[01:32] Defining alliteration: Initial rhymes, brand names, and types (symmetrical, unvoiced)
[07:04] “Our Song” (Debut, 2006): Slamming screen doors and the phonetic cadence of baby Taylor
[14:43] “Call It What You Want” (Reputation, 2017): Soft sounds, effortless love, and the R&B-adjacent flow
[22:19] “Father Figure” (The Life of a Showgirl, 2025): Hard consonants, hard power, and the father figure persona
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Wednesday May 06, 2026
Wednesday May 06, 2026
"What could you possibly get for the girl who has everything and nothing all at once?"
What happens when you reach a level of fame so singular that there's almost no one left who can truly understand your life? That's the question at the heart of "Elizabeth Taylor" (The Life of a Showgirl, 2025), and it's why Taylor Swift had to go all the way back to Hollywood's golden age to find her patron saint. This week, we go line by line through one of the standout tracks from “The Life of a Showgirl”, unpacking the Portofino references, the white diamonds, and why the bridge answers the song's central question in the most unexpected way.
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Mentioned in this episode:
Elizabeth Taylor, Wikipedia
"Elizabeth Taylor," The Life of a Showgirl (2025)
Portofino, Italy
Hôtel Plaza Athénée, Paris
Musso & Frank Grill, Hollywood
Elizabeth Taylor's White Diamonds perfume
How I Write podcast, Ward Farnsworth interview
Episode Highlights:
[00:00] Intro to "Elizabeth Taylor"
[03:00] Who was Elizabeth Taylor? The Vince Canby quote that sets up everything
[04:30] "Do you think it's forever?"
[13:00] "All the right guys promised they'd stay"
[17:00] "Been number one, but I never had two"
[30:00] "Be my NY when Hollywood hates me"
[36:45] "The girl who has everything and nothing all at once"
[40:00] “I would trade the Cartier for someone to trust (just kidding)"
[45:00] “Yhey say I'm bad news, I just say thanks"
[52:00] The bridge: White Diamonds, lovers, and what's actually forever
[57:45] Purpose round: Elizabeth Taylor as patron saint, mentor, and mirror
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Wednesday Apr 29, 2026
Wednesday Apr 29, 2026
“Best believe I’m still bejeweled” and diving into an incredibly rich discussion this week! In this week's show and tell episode, we’re examining the age-old literary theme of luxury in Taylor Swift's music, through the songs “I Bet You Think About Me” (Red Taylor’s Version, 2021), “Bejeweled” (Midnights, 2022), and “Elizabeth Taylor” (Life of a Showgirl, 2025). Join us as we dive into how the meaning and significance of luxury changes through each of these songs that span across Taylor’s discography, and how luxury can be used to comment on social status, identity, and emotional depth.
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Mentioned in this episode:
The Great Gatsby, F. Scott Fitzgerald
Jane Austen
The Picture of Dorian Gray, Oscar Wild
***
Episode Highlights
[00:00] Introduction to luxury as a theme in literature and music
[03:00] “Bet You Think About Me” - the contrast in social classes
[10:50] “Bejeweled”- precious jewels and self-worth
[20:36] The luxurious, lonely life of “Elizabeth Taylor”
[34:31] Conclusion: The Multifaceted Nature of Luxury in Taylor's Music
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Monday Apr 27, 2026
Monday Apr 27, 2026
This week, we are continuing our full album deep dive series for our paid subscribers, and finishing up our analysis of Taylor Swift's self-titled debut (2006). In this preview, we dig into the second half of this album where we start to really get a sense of who Taylor Swift was and the budding talent of the Taylor Swift we know today!
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Track 8: “Stay Beautiful” (Written by Taylor Swift and Liz Rose; produced by Nathan Chapman)
Track 9: “Should've Said No” (Written by Taylor Swift; produced by Nathan Chapman)
Track 10: “Mary's Song (Oh My My My)” (Written by Taylor Swift, Liz Rose, and Brian Maher; produced by Nathan Chapman)
Track 11: “Our Song” (Written by Taylor Swift; produced by Nathan Chapman)
Unreleased Vault Song: “I’d Lie” (Written by Taylor Swift; produced by Nathan Chapman)
Album Purpose: All three of us hosts go around to discuss what we think the overall purpose of Taylor Swift’s debut album was, how she accomplished it, and how this album gives us a peak into the mind of the pop superstar to come.
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Wednesday Apr 22, 2026
Taylor Swift's "Opalite" Meaning & Lyrics Explained | The Life of a Showgirl (2025)
Wednesday Apr 22, 2026
Wednesday Apr 22, 2026
"You had to make your own sunshine, but now the sky is opalite." This week we’re deep diving the second single from “The Life of a Showgirl,” Opalite! We’ll explore why Taylor chose “opalite” over “opal,” what it means to create your own luck instead of waiting for it, and the song’s shift from being stuck in a cycle to finding resilience. Along the way, we debate who’s really speaking—is Mama Swift talking the whole time?—trace the song’s self-referential connections to “Daylight,” “Fearless,” “right where you left me,” and more, and unpack how this bubblegum pop track is actually a deeply philosophical song about agency, community, and paying it forward.
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Mentioned in this episode:
Right Where You Left Me - Deep Dive
The Fate of Ophelia - Deep Dive
Metaphors Show & Tell
Hamlet, William Shakespeare
Self-Reliance, Ralph Waldo Emerson
Episode Highlights:
[01:57] What is “Opalite”?
[08:06] “I had a bad habit…”
[16:14] “Life is a song, it ends when it ends”
[20:59] “Dancing through the lightning strikes”
[28:38] “Sleepless in the onyx night”
[33:23] “You finally left the table”
[46:51] “All of the foes, and all of the friends”
[50:21] “This is just a temporary speed bump”
[59:48] “Oh my lord never met no one like you before”
[01:01:11] The Purpose: “But now the sky is Opalite”
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Wednesday Apr 15, 2026
Wednesday Apr 15, 2026
"Take me to the lakes where all the poets went to die." What's an AP class without a not-so-brief discussion about touching grass? In honor of Earth Day, we're exploring Transcendentalism — the 19th-century movement that said the divine lives in nature, not in dusty pews — and finding it everywhere in Taylor Swift's music. Jenn returns to "the lakes" (folklore, 2020) and pairs it with Ralph Waldo Emerson's foundational essay Nature to explore how Taylor's retreat from society mirrors the transcendentalist search for truth in the natural world. Maansi takes on "Bigger Than the Whole Sky" (Midnights, 2022), tracing its imagery and cosmic grief through themes of universal divinity and interconnectedness. And Jodi brings "Opalite" (The Life of a Showgirl, 2025) to pose a question: is this song an acceptance of transcendentalism — or a rejection of it? Dust off your Emerson, lace up your hiking boots, and get ready to go touch grass with us.
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Mentioned in this episode:
Nature, Ralph Waldo Emerson
Self-Reliance, Ralph Waldo Emerson
Walden, Henry David Thoreau
E7: Ecocriticism — our original nature episode
E8: Deep Dive - the lakes
Ralph Waldo Emerson
Henry David Thoreau
Walt Whitman
Margaret Fuller
***
Episode Highlights:
[00:30] Introduction to Transcendentalism
[08:29] "the lakes,” folklore
[18:28] "Bigger Than the Whole Sky," Midnights
[30:16] "Opalite” The Life of a Showgirl
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Wednesday Apr 08, 2026
Taylor Swift's "Fifteen" Meaning & Lyrical Analysis | Fearless (2008)
Wednesday Apr 08, 2026
Wednesday Apr 08, 2026
"Take a deep breath and you walk through the doors. It's the morning of your very first day." This week, we're going line by line through "Fifteen.” From the significance of 15 as an age that rarely gets its pop culture moment, to Abigail and the quiet power of female friendship, to the devastating simplicity of "and we both cried," we unpack why this deceptively simple song keeps hitting harder with every passing year. We dig into who the "I" and the "you" really are, debate whether that night ends on a high or a heartbreak, and explore what it means to pay it forward to a generation of girls who are still walking through their very first doors.
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Mentioned in This Episode:
Fearless, Taylor Swift (2008 album)
"Beautiful Ghosts" — Taylor Swift (from Cats, 2019)
"You're On Your Own, Kid" — Taylor Swift (Midnights)
"All Too Well" — Taylor Swift
"Seven" — Taylor Swift (folklore)
"22" — Taylor Swift (Red)
Inside Out (2015 film) — Pixar / core memories concept
Episode Highlights:
[02:42] The title: Why Taylor chose “Fifteen”
[16:23] "Feeling like there's nothing to figure out," and the count-to-10 anxiety hack
[23:07] Abigail, in-groups and out-groups, and the adolescent psychology of finding your people
[33:22] Second chorus debate: Does the night end on a high or a heartbreak?
[43:00] The flower metaphor, purity culture, and what "everything she had" really means in context
[54:55] Getting to the purpose of “Fifteen”
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