AP Taylor Swift
Welcome to AP Taylor Swift Podcast, the show for Swifties who love to overanalyze lyrics! Join hosts Maansi Dommeti, Jenn Holcomb, and Jodi Innerfield as they delve into Taylor Swift’s music to uncover the literary devices, themes, and inspirations that make her songs resonate with millions of fans. From Shakespeare to feminist theory, we explore the academic side of Taylor’s songwriting, no English degree required, just curiosity. New episodes weekly. Subscribe for updates: aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe
Welcome to AP Taylor Swift Podcast, the show for Swifties who love to overanalyze lyrics! Join hosts Maansi Dommeti, Jenn Holcomb, and Jodi Innerfield as they delve into Taylor Swift’s music to uncover the literary devices, themes, and inspirations that make her songs resonate with millions of fans. From Shakespeare to feminist theory, we explore the academic side of Taylor’s songwriting, no English degree required, just curiosity. New episodes weekly. Subscribe for updates: aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe
Episodes

Wednesday Jun 19, 2024
E41: Toxic Relationships + “The Tortured Poets Department”
Wednesday Jun 19, 2024
Wednesday Jun 19, 2024
"Mr. Steal Your Girl, then make her cry." This summer, we’re bringing you Summer School! Each week, we’ll revisit a topic from this past season within the context of songs from Taylor Swift’s latest album, “The Tortured Poets Department.” This week we’re covering the topic of toxic relationships from Episode 5.
Mentioned in this episode:
Episode 5: Toxic Relationships (Apple | Spotify)
Mary Shelley and Percey Shelley’s Relationship tl;dr
Frankenstein, Mary Shelley
The Lottery, Shirley Jackson
Frozen
Wicked
The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
Episode 25: Pride and Prejudice (Apple | Spotify)
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Episode Highlights:
[00:19] Welcome to Summer School
[02:45] “The Tortured Poets Department”
[08:46] “But Daddy I Love Him”
[13:52] “Who’s Afraid of Little Old Me”
[20:14] “I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can)”
[23:45] “loml”
[26:46] “The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived”
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This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z.

Wednesday Jun 12, 2024
E40: Deep Dive - Paris
Wednesday Jun 12, 2024
Wednesday Jun 12, 2024
Like we were in Paris. This week we’re over-analyzing Taylor Swift's song “Paris” from the album Midnights. We explore the imagery and metaphors used in the lyrics, like “stumbled down pretend alleyways” and how that relates to what it’s like to be early on in a relationship. Are they really in Paris? What does it mean to be “in Paris”? Why does she choose “Paris” and not another city? What makes “Paris” different? We try and unpack it all!
Mentioned in this episode:
Midnight in Paris
Peter Pan, JM Barrie
Practical Magic
Isn’t It Romantic?
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Episode Highlights:
[01:40] How we do a deep dive
[5:00] “Drew a map on your bedroom ceiling”
[8:53] “Like we were in Paris”
[12:48] “Levitate above all the messes made”
[19:47] “I want to brainwash you into loving me forever”
[27:17] “My love, we were in Paris”
[30:04] The purpose of the song
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Wednesday Jun 05, 2024
E39: Show and Tell - Cities
Wednesday Jun 05, 2024
Wednesday Jun 05, 2024
The lights are so bright, but they never blind me. This week we’re taking a tour of Taylor Swift’s favorite cities to sing about. We explore the personification of different cities, and how Taylor uses these cities to tell her stories. In this episode, we’re covering “Welcome to New York” from 1989, “London Boy” from Lover, and “Paris” from Midnights.
Mentioned in this episode:
The City, Langston Hughes
The Raven, Edgar Allen Poe
Mrs. Dalloway, Virginia Woolf
Mrs. Dalloway’s Map of London
Jodi's London Boy Map of London
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Episode Highlights:
[1:03] Introduction to Cities
[2:38] “Welcome to New York” 1989
[27:54] “London Boy” Lover
[46:16] “Paris” Midnights
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Wednesday May 29, 2024
E38: Deep Dive - The Archer
Wednesday May 29, 2024
Wednesday May 29, 2024
Who could ever leave me, darling? But who could stay? Love or hate The Archer (Lover 2019), we all agree that we have no idea what this song is about. Such an obscure song calls for a proper, literary style close reading. Join us as we go line by line to understand what Taylor is trying to say with the obscure lyrics of this incredibly poetic song.
Mentioned in this episode:
Tom Cruise movies
Smart Bitches, Trashy Books
Marvel’s Avengers: End Game
Black Widow
The Odyssey, by Homer
Iron man
Full House (1987)
Michael Scott, The Office (2005)
Peter Pan, by JM Barrie
Nietzsche
“Anti-hero,” Midnights (2022)
Jane Eyre
Into the Woods
Selena
Mean Girls the Musical
Barbie
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Episode Highlights:
[01:43] Baseline: How we all feel about The Archer
[03:17] Combat, I'm ready for combat: What’s it mean
[11:28] I jump from the train, I ride off alone
[21:42] Backtrack: Who left? Who should stay?
[28:00] Unpacking the phrase “cut off my nose”
[32:18] Invisible smoke & all of my heroes
[40:24] I, They, You - who’s seeing through her?
[48:50] Pulling together the bridge
[56:26] Our final thoughts
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Wednesday May 22, 2024
E37: Show and Tell - Surrealism
Wednesday May 22, 2024
Wednesday May 22, 2024
I don't need your closure. In this week’s episode, we discuss the art style of surrealism and explore how it relates to Taylor Swift. Abby Aleksinas, of @arthistoryabby on TikTok, joins us to help us understand how visual arts can connect to music. We dive into “The Archer” from Lover, then we look at “closure” from evermore, and wrap it up with “Lavender Haze” from Midnights. Join us as we dive into the unconventional pairings, unexpected imagery, and use of surrealism to convey emotions and create a dreamlike atmosphere!
Mentioned in this episode:
@arthistoryabby
The Surrealist Manifesto
Duma Key by Stephen King
To the Lighthouse by Virginia Woolf
The Infernal Desire Machines of Dr. Hoffman by Angela Carter
Wuthering Heights by Emily Bronte
Jane Eyre by Charlotte Bronte
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Episode Highlights:
[00:29] Introduction to Surrealism
[01:15] Art History with Abby
[20:15] “The Archer”
[32:17] “closure”
[43:20] “Lavender Haze”
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Wednesday May 15, 2024
E36: Deep Dive - King of My Heart
Wednesday May 15, 2024
Wednesday May 15, 2024
Salute to me I’m your American Queen. In this episode, we deep dive into Taylor Swift's song “King of My Heart” from reputation. Join us as we discuss the power dynamics and military references in the song, as well as themes of wealth, luxury, and the British Royal Family. We even attempt to dissect how the music changes to reflect the song’s themes and lyrics. We’re left wondering: is this just a schoolgirl crush? Infatuation? Or the love of the speaker’s life, the end of all the endings? Tune in and find out!
Mentioned in this episode:
King Arthur
"You’re Losing Me"
Marxist Theory Episode
Switched on Pop (Book)
Switched on Pop (Podcast)
Satire Episode
“Satisfied,” Hamilton
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Episode Highlights:
[1:50] How we do a deep dive
[4:06] “Salute to me I’m your American Queen”
[9:23] “All the boys and their expensive cars”
[11:00] How the music changes to reflect the song’s lyrics
[13:47] “Now you try on calling me baby…”
[20:37] “Is this the end of all the endings?”
[29:23] What is the purpose of the song?
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Monday May 13, 2024
Bonus: "The Tortured Poets Department" at The Eras Tour Reaction
Monday May 13, 2024
Monday May 13, 2024
Try and come for my job. We’ve got a special episode to discuss “The Tortured Poets Department” songs that Taylor Swift added to The Eras Tour setlist this weekend. We share our reactions and observations about the changes like the visuals in “But Daddy I Love Him,” the levitating platform in 'Who's Afraid of Little Old Me?' and how “So High School” feels like “Fearless”- era Taylor. We cover the UFO effects in “Down Bad” and how “Fortnight” mirrors the music video. Finally, we have to talk about the epic marching band in “The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived,” and the Clara Bow and “A Chorus Line” references in “I Can Do It With A Broken Heart.” The TTPD section of the Eras tour is an emotional, fun, and powerful journey in The Eras Tour!
Episode Highlights:
[03:20] First reactions to the changes
[06:32] “But Daddy I Love Him”
[10:25] “So High School”
[11:43] “Who’s Afraid of Little Old Me”
[16:10] “Down Bad”
[20:18] “Fortnight”
[24:51] “The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived”
[27:47] “I Can Do It With a Broken Heart”
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Wednesday May 08, 2024
E35: Show and Tell - Royalty
Wednesday May 08, 2024
Wednesday May 08, 2024
How the kingdom lights shined just for me and you. Hear ye! Hear ye! This week’s show and tell topic is “Royalty!” We explore the historical and religious roots of royalty, and its portrayal in fantasy literature, and high school. Maansi discusses “Long Live” from Speak Now (Taylor’s Version). Jodi brings in “Castle's Crumbling” Speak Now (Taylor’s Version) (From the Vault). And finally, Jenn shares “King of My Heart” from Reputation.
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Mentioned in this episode:
The Lord of the Rings
Newsies
The Plantagenets by Dan Jones
Le Morte D’Artur by Thomas Malory
The Last Kingdom on Netflix
Beowulf
Robin Hood
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone
Throne of Glass series
Frozen (Disney film)
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Episode Highlights:
[00:01:00] Introduction to Royalty
[00:04:58] “Long Live” Speak Now (Taylor’s Version)
[00:26:32] “Castle's Crumbling” Speak Now (Taylor’s Version) (From the Vault)
[00:48:22] “King of My Heart” Reputation
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Wednesday May 01, 2024
E34: Deep Dive - I Know Places
Wednesday May 01, 2024
Wednesday May 01, 2024
They are the hunters we are the foxes, and we run. This week we’re covering “I Know Places” from 1989 (Taylor’s Version). Who’s running? Why are they running? What are the places they’re trying to get to? Does she actually know a place to hide? This is a dark and anxious song and we have questions! We explore how Taylor Swift uses metaphors to help make the relationship she’s singing about relatable. Then we examine how the music changes between the verses and the choruses, from anxious and scared to romantic and beautiful. And we’re left trying to answer the question: is this a reliable narrator? Tune in to find out!
Mentioned in this episode:
Fall episode
Metaphors episode
Pirates of the Caribbean
Friends
“Wonderland” episode
Zootopia
The Diary of Anne Frank
Star Wars: Rogue One
AIDA, Original Broadway Cast Recording
The Audacity of Hope
Marxist episode
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Episode Highlights:
[01:15] How we do a deep dive
[04:30] “It’s a scene and we’re out here in plain sight”
[09:01] “Baby…I know places we won’t be found”
[16:30] “Just grab my hand and don’t ever drop it”
[21:52] Is there a bridge?
[28:48] What’s the purpose of the song?
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Wednesday Apr 24, 2024
E33: Show and Tell - Animal Studies
Wednesday Apr 24, 2024
Wednesday Apr 24, 2024
Now it’s too late for you and your white horse. What do white horses, foxes, vultures, and wolves all have in common? They all show up in our favorite Taylor Swift songs! This week, we’re looking to understand how Taylor Swift uses animals in her lyrics, through the lens of animal studies! Jenn takes us back to medieval times to help us understand the origins of the white horse and what that means for “White Horse” (Fearless, 2008). Then Jodi talks to us about the many connotations associated with foxes and vultures, which are referenced in “I know places,” (1989, 2014). And finally, Maansi talks us through the song “Daylight” (Lover, 2014) where there are implications of the animalistic concept of hibernation, and also references to wolves.
Mentioned in this episode:
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets by J.K. Rowling
The Hobbit & Lord of the Rings by J.R.R. Tolkein
The Silmarillion by J.R.R. Tolkein
Rapunzel by the Brothers Grimm
Mythology by Edith Hamilton
Hercules the Disney film
Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (the film)
BBC’s In Our Time - Chivalry episode
BBC’s You’re Dead to Me
Shakespeare’s Sonnets
Ivanhoe by Sir Walter Scott
Le Morte D’Artur by Sir Thomas Malory
Lancelot: The Knight of the Cart by Chretien de Troyes
The Templar Knights by Dan Jones
Alison Weir Books
Zootopia
Mary Poppins
Brer Rabbit
Disney’s Robin Hood
The Dark Knight
Spiderman
Beowulf
The Wolf of Wall Street
Twilight
Once Upon a Time
Little Red Riding Hood by the Brothers Grimm
The Three Little Pigs
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Episode Highlights:
[01:12] Introduction to Animal Studies
[03:36] White horses in “White Horse,” Fearless, 2008
[23:05] Foxes & vultures in “I know places,” 1989, 2014
[38:19] Wolves in “Daylight,” Lover, 2019
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